Tere õhtust, kõigile algamas on vestlussaade kahekõne. Täna saame arutleda selle üle, mis kujundab ajalugu,  kas süsteem või üksikisik või mis juhtub,  kui üksikisik, olgu ta nii suur juht kui tahes jääb ühel  hetkel süsteemile alla esse ist ja politoloog Niina rusova küsib,  kas ajalugu on spiraal või ring. Tea. No. Tere õhtust, Niina Russova. Sa ha Great thing to haveiou, her ft right fe longtrip from America. Tis er vea her in Estonia selle Brating,  Sixte eas of National televition, It was in Nintin fifty five. Tat was the Time Wan Estonia Wa Spat of t USA Sar and The Cantribas,  Rood Bay, Nikita sov and Hevo ste persen. Ho relli thotat. Te US Sar, Good Mach, te vests. Liming standards and e lo, too. Com her ad, asu fins state com her. Peet Tall Bosple. Id out Russov what thing? I don. Ise no conditional tences it was ne ruse that it happen,  so we wald say that it Godnave bat I also on beleave that person. See Play a MayBer en. Aus stardi National Televisional Around,  US Sar To to as. Leving Stander an what not IBery Prowder was actualet. Ho. A emamerd wel buy. Den Biku takebatoon, dialoog Bi in the Sistem and the person  Sukuid pead, et. Pron Santa importent just r isechangue in ecistem. The was a Change system was definitely Crussis. I de a to have tat cChange in that, sest am when Stalin,  Daid he desided, tat. T Human Being should be the Senter of of. Candisation wi th, Cramin wi the Power openap Boris Tried  openup the Borres Trio peab Leet of. Politcl System So the wis as you see the was a Dielog betwin  The system and the people. Trig to Change artistlik preseptions the wr,  the bigining of th, no et the National Television Otema ber,  wasaso the bigining of Great thatile Productions slikle Laer  thing and teate Kiftes en. Cruseve of osas famusy knowne for loving art an going to art  exebutions and tellin Ires how to do the work. But Which was alse veri, sovee thing to do bekaussi te Crami  Leader alwis was. Every thing, but I think e diferen Crusse ves that. No bady was goen to president like at at so for ampole edi  aven gard, ard bat, Hewas debating wi the aresti and I think  that was a change and that was a change that happend. Y Christhi bekausi was hiscind of personality enaraged the. Intellectual debat the artistic debatt. Sientific debet, ent politseil. So tats theris, we os the word. Kui peat her in Estonia vi Honor. Modalatse people In Muska. Wa I dont know we the you do on Crush more but if you do it  and e fe tat you do Hi noor en rusha, so if you. Wid be much more the then, rassian do ja need is interestkas  Do fined that In Demoai Conto mo, Democratic contrs Venase  Krusevas auwis muth, mo prisshiid ja minu nimi ees hise go  ga ja mina. Olin ei, Estonia ise go ga his nori go ga. Seega. Wan of he Weson many Wees on Bat en of the Big ees on ses  that of Gos Geosef Stalinis. Grete leade The Wa his sin toda ekas Rusha was was feer an respect. And wase Grad endatrial Power the time. End so Crusef, too. Stalin Down i nintin fiftisex erine secret speech and ther  for heis. Hea nimi on tee s. The wase great leader Crus, acaly, Berrid,  him and kild, him in. No an Siine Turms and ther for hes ofen seen in rushian  Palote an Ivan manstri medias a trader to the nation. Lets Plat You A. Howe. Yougrant. So evere Way to say hou wick. Rashin eshin. Awis. Panin ho ho how in whet habe, how, beka very dificlt histre. Crushev By Blades my great gren father Bat By relatiivsus. He is my mathers greandfather, but when,  her, father, Leanid. Was kiled in World wa to Mather was adopted by Crush as His dor,  so by relations sees historia by blod sees ise. Shis grandor and I They for by relations ise,  Grandar an y blod ise randare. To Vi, no what happene to Nikita Som. W I no wer habe to. Tre heas. Faiding HeBe Kam of i de Pilot. Was very Frash, was is firs day as fuu soodsat heas flying  tha day as Marco evend. Nigneti f tree and. Hewas. Play He e. Very Words rega in rusha. Asi menti Stalin al wery of ques. Was no story Al. Crushef. Noune Stalin end, then, Crusif Himself was austad in ninna e  For in ad In six te ninithink Wen the wasetas. The Word ams to reabilitate Stalin. Baline. Esi the time, the General, Secretary of he Cominest padi So  the story stated, coming out, that Alega need was,  et Traer and B Relly provided, Sam interesting,  Sam intressing. Res mast have Benerareas. Noun Stalin, Hissan mustav The soviet union,  So that story sor continue Did In vastigation spen about  Fers In vastating that story an kabare wich s all Las Crus,  hea f. He. Rassismi. What is kulla kohta Russo? Et sa wan de fe question, Fo me it represents he Imperial  mind of The Rushian nation usse. Bek CanCan, levan, Time son. Ees muhedaitary es wi. Sa ah, Sovi Unian Io Wis errtory. I Clodi oures Estonia Wistil con tinu to be levan Time son. So ruses thinksit of, et sel in spase trmes an Sise terms  ami you Be your import, ou Be you powreful and. En ter for with power with this Bignes wit this sis Cams  Comes respact from the out side. World ad thats the. You like to Gall yourself professional us. Still The puk os pablist last er i took Somp time to pabista Book. Actually Jo ekas. Noore professor Cruf do mon Work I work on usa s me no no  Cruse and soise s. Ionic enese professionaal Crusef bikas of kors. Af meetme on thing, et. Rususe Grand. Bi, kus ma I kno mena Professionaal Gru en et ery proov. Eerche end professoriera. Ssay. Ide a wel? I was ritingut for long time wasa veri. Torid to pot family Stori I front and my family was an happy bour,  et eas ting was sain th should, me sang good cruse sul  really be e. Playning Tor example. Caracter myy y. He was Play boy, he was very. Heas no good Cominest and no someways Intrustin. Turiseneery pärimuse good cominust, Heis ei dessidendamine. Cole ete, no that worderall Bat Hewis ei no screaming that  erou te comine padi, Crise ase, oted, Comines Comines as  most importne hing, ta ava happe Hmat t. Hem he was the greates leaver. In in Universa Caminis justes end sama panfoto. James Do. Soetatore on Vincing that the Kes to beret? How aftete Krush of servas Oer? Bresne. Erastata. Brimeri l. On Kutusovski Avinu end hauasid. I actually never for me was Strange, but was not the samas  ohe fo mer relative peas I nove so Crusiven Pareiko,  Crushiven Pore so whene I was Crusi u aal oustad,  so I t beten. To way they talk about Power and how, he was noorempower. Ba was ery diferent, bekase I nev, pean the rupure I neve  peran the Break ya no was like deposed, Zar he was and heme  in the Cramle. So Fo me was just a strang. Feeling of Sambayhes Seeg I gues, mina just Thor a,  et thes way bekas was a see ver Dark Loud,  sem the edak, Loude round, hem a no dark loud that Came from  him bekause hea I think he hand his re time and rothe Well. Barithink from Every bad aus pikas the treeded,  him like hewas as about üks blo right now bekas the Inse  Nobad leave spour, mine Befar Crusi nobady actual left power  u dont Leave Paur you I e Da ou you going to minesta ere you. Kel and he was probably the first leader,  the first leader, Ither i Sarvist rasha sovich rasa ho Was  retid and was an kild a Inact his last word ninna. Far e. Plannery meaning, et witch, he was reliafed from his power. His te gratest echievement of my life, Esto dame outed Bay  mere vot Bicas of Questian eas Befor ead. Aved. So He was actually president hi cur at id a president an. Han was follod by Mihhail Gorbicov, kas Soviet Leaders,  raha do? Lev Po wall en eroly. End so juba strangel toh leader of the Sovet nian In retirment. An I think that how my famully treed, et. Hima This eas I di. See him Es te moto World. Bat hewas in no loot of farming involved. Where helevees we wer e so. Pos to potee s. Hese great hease pesen heas. Pesen al of kord. Tema great Proera beaus, Stalin, requier,  everybadi to be a, wase ver, Mark sin thing to be. His hard was. To his his estad. That Goverment gave him Heterneed relly beautiful. Jo met very interesting, person list for Estonians,  Verslav, Molotov, Vin Molotov. Jes hauasid what Waste piron? I think was about six, teen end. I was Vigrae mather in Juka Whitch es an of tos Playces. Sovet parracex ed for the we tierd. O thepara t. Whies of para ad. So I was walking ard house i heman hewas Intrusting ly nafos Friends. MaiKaseta. Grushev granza so the were Carving out wood,  status from Fa Trans whih ase, ver, intresting harbi,  so Youn Kiki. Lave mode Whe Sherin, the same, Haby ja Niit tro. H tes nina teis. I ther end. Siia and then spoken ees sis voiewod, Bee Senester. Batitaan ke, no men voy soi. And Hi. Rand. Was concite trader, a was shark igasuguse tok about Leand,  w know ani thing. Ind, no aitab. So me was was very bead Begining of elatis Nevercantinud  bekas es on time terve Toome. Barin Maiu, hor loor about what hi sed wh sed was  interesting hi seid you know, he was considere traer par i  kow for efact that he just duid in badle So to day Inteting  ena mat s of oded es sain was et trader but hedidn say the  he said hes concide to be trader bat. Ed to day, noh Rashion propaganda his his his the an hos  alegid ly. Sed fors the arar o ther was in entresting meatig and. For men meny dekades I di no he mao, et on of tere sai ro te  bokes an just I ani to ander, stand what he mend what he was  and what was his roll. In in in sobi paat time. This Quitan interesting. Cot by molotov. His see etat wit, Stalin, we folod, erection of Strong hand  enda hand at weker ich tatet Sing historing. Nikita Let aut Beast That Bing Sorry ble a. Aaty aitas. Humanitarianis Batimpl jua. Nen SWad asta song. Par Nikita. Hea is on, on, on something that you ry ou s ery aste  relationi wen the Staan Individual in I think for a  Individul ezest pikas ene sov was ictateship of the Proletaastateship. Proetart and so Individual Desend merer end,  so fa crushev Indiaidual Dide mere When he viseeris. Viseted American fifty nine, Hybro the Washi mashin,  Her Betro. Her Work Wal in te sov id ees. Things to not are Wal not ware Wal in te sov id una Buit he  really trid to me people s life slikl esi an I think mo  objected to that Win aver. Bat heps bok to Po, et econsuve ali of andeest Sad. Wan astu, remont seab. That wh. Macres. Humaitab. Simpley Busuway infence Beau ro d. Ve rah of turning to the west end speaking,  jubot, humanitere, speaking, bout, Democrasiin,  no iginiis glasnese. I think I kan emagn that. Menov those peos xperi orbage of pro was. Was like doing, Bekasuy everything he Belveen that never  never tern round and so so I think he was Deeply Dramatised  by the change. Let take te caron Situatin Wiheteroma. Ali Interitation. Rimia Bat sam pipe seid Ida just Rushofs desission to kive. Creine Whatto tink bout. Wa crushi de was tley Gruse desesion and Grushev like making  dessin hewas vera impulsive leader, ahelike making,  desesions quicklay. Bat It was, ent just sur of he desided Gavee to to u krain. It was Nigtin fifty for So Stalin, Dyden Nigntin fifty three. End, eeno weri, mina very erly Crusi u. Wer ten he was wede thinking that decentralisatin. End sor, te system that in carage es Individul to. Function pere to work, ber wood, be Wood bi veri Benifis to  the Soviet unian and so the Wa the sest work before was the Cramlin. Te, no sa. To da te võrdle of Power teat s no eriga By the way Every  singli wasion ar. Hase võrdle of Power is awes gos from the Cramin to. To from the from the top down so Kristi trig to. Decentralisee manet soe Kis ver and systemis funktioning  close to K f. W B so ve desision go to maso. Goso Horisontal relatii. Finaly. Hou historikud s hat haspen the ma Lesson fromal tos Ivens  related to Rushov jaaa. W or? Hing? I think the man lessen of histry is that we have to  learn from it. Bekas vere off. En epesialgu toda. Vladimir Putin usus histry as Texbok Histrees nori tack polk  Histry is Estory, te o ne learn from us histry is sayng. And I think that? Lauaso e. Cristiano Great uan retale Hewas a Stalinist heas a Comunist  Stalin Dide hea hout maks, contyparer he Nevostobin Tallinnas,  et is turvay from His oma Bas. Ia as Pere for the contry and now ise mereight. No pikas Stalin head nous, Hemine secret Speech in nignten fifty se. Thank you so match for the intervjuu and letsmeta gan. Head vaatajad sellega täna lõpetame järgmisel nädalal uued külalised,  uued jutud. Kaunist õhtut. Jaa. Täna. Ei.
