A. Tere õhtust, 2022 on olnud pöörane aasta see sõja tagasi Euroopasse,  aga on sundinud ka küsima, mis hetkest võib kõik see,  mis meid maailmaga ühendab, pöörduda meie vastu relvana? Aasta viimases saates on külas meie aja üks olulisemaid  geopoliitika mõtestajaid. Euroopa välissuhete nõukogu juht Marc Lenart. Esimene stuudio alustab. Marlened, Welcome to the programm. Inlatest Book ou rigt woute Dangers of connect ed World o  describe Ho inter dependence a Wepen est. Aed inoy, te read, Pu es not math about Is energy dependence  on rusha. Ou see at coming. Ahi there is som mention of Aneg Dependence. Age story witch is how we wen from thinking. Inter dependa Bilding Lings Betwee n people ed. Cre. Pese te word teete, Toods The situation,  wich I think meny peopu. No we with siis the tus tependenci. No Ballens Con ahi. Le u siition Whe y Vor an in Dan, sa. Patdog Chiltrans. Aeg sea. Santis sepa Migration Sea thins wich, Bound gla gethe now being,  tand, ing to epens te hirm, diferent people. Just like Angela Merkel an Germany Ignord. And ma austa te eu ignoreeripline. An litraly Blow up. So have have we al peraps Ignored the fact that this can Be  s no Have we now ler the right lessens or is there entation  to go back to Business as usul. I think with rusha, et Pe deficutsega te Business es e su. Dessisions wich countrys having to ma noo angelise s I. Think is? Ba w ww Bef ther a other, question, eba dependences. But Ne plastest We Bai from Gouvemehe W having to tt. Me Sarel, Superfro sperus, If -we transition,  Cas am. Me move to ec. Vics an Rene Bothings ta wee. The er bake quastions Chris o materials of them Baloun to  Chiner või ma enda Pin asula. Situation of dependens Chiers, happen, rusure. Ah, Hardwafeka Santa? Witch. Isevoltion. Just read Catari anounse o Caropin Investigation tes Coing  on in Brosses. Kas seplise, no that strate from the playbook is on need? I think tat ry f na wi th relati nship of Dependence on any  count i. Pitso. Gosa Piton, rong, ran you, Annely nats? I I think on the Kelesson sis no we sul. Debend on anybody. Ent have lots of relationships one thing,  s rong a ou resilience on. Can can cos as ther play. Esini. Arene. Osta have Inof relatishea. Sweth on seply to another. No te dimension North Cara Cod rassa be Come one Amin hou  far do ou think the es willing to go to Isate rasha if just  se et Business as sul is nordea option to go bäkk. I think te the west is? De a damage the Rushian, Economy not just through. The Santins rusin entr. Bank. A consi, so. Tehnology the wi sdopping, Beig expoted to rushure Rushur is  vary bound in to the World on of the Dangeses,  the as weecon. American Sanctions ave Club rega ma, ma. Very deficul for samu Financial Institutions have dealings  with ruse. Sa rusureisis no hava aallinast. T man othepat the World on of. Ther maybe ots. Last eti tha n F onte parts the Santion,  see case rusha. Poplation. Outing rserof. As on of th, we have. Maa how ma sho the santin, baid Wen. Maheaasa. On, et Join in ith wi, th aas antiones. Proviset Still on think able For Paris and for Berlin that  rusha Mit actually Colla mini dificalt to say. That for for ise Shats on crone rasha shud Los this war  still semes that ja no Washin eas kind of way out of this. Ta on Justifide Wa ehe waging, agant o crane wh is,  et so. Itha. Fran? T? James men. In deista? Think abot Lom. Wathis very easy, fra nad Citico of The Jeman Coma France. Par li, kes? Of the mis takes the w ma, ega aste. We remembreig? Contres. Diferent Santionsee case Rusha Lai m. Which was post e. Pole ving Constitutional. Incesines pandi vee seportid offering, membrship,  see. Inte thank abot, wa happens the end o the figa Everybody  siis aasta. Wa Sam, s Fre Wusara. Pi mimen? I think te pange, Wicaed situatsioon mahe. Hotelli aaftacas regan. Verena. Ees tha. Wa be te Way. Muvana no. Arve Wo o. Fortionly Pa o te am mi eri. A ampe, sest ta Whi s be on the period, e you have uteratin ete or. P li toustawin Ma. Pamela. Venif te. I think? The from rusha wo continu es we enesetution we om Come  wichis throug, migrantion, tro ane thro,  Siba throug the ppenisatiirinaer, a. No hinga and wi pes treete. Wari fe just Make rassa Completly misrably lose this or this  logic of not ho miliating, Putin, leaving him sor a way out  of this confrent konflikt dis it come from the fere that he  miga Simpl de some thing completl Crasi is corner is ther s  sam otherlogic that we hea in Estonia. Just on see. Ithink. Haus lise Bunduscan meny. Fa. Rushaasi. As Na Weppens. Te sees his. Isas of this campa agast agent ees h. Die from Estonia sees how hards. Imperialise Back on hinge, st in narin country Ta. Se. Päris. Ed Pin, lõks like, sest. And think his serwi as. President of rusha. We he u B in Danger, hea end, op dein something Crasy Heid,  sa ing, Crase on te enti fot febury. Pep e Humbu. X roug, Seefa rusha hassen, read lines pished by Westen te  po and mor mo. Epee Cramage Westen govement e no willing to dote beginning. O. Reaching fo the the Nekle. Sage sam ting wish. I think is godte? Ware eba. Question is De ita tre in away dosend Cripet,  West pra ega ainegre. Brus. Putin frem Longing, any other, mudus attacks on,  on his näites, which I think avery body in Estonia. Bova veri 100, wer of an Ithink Higfly. On confine the right, Balense Petween. Doing everything takse. Winnes. Regas are with out. E situation, the raa. Rushin Calabs, wich, rike. Mis ne? Holocust wich I think every oma to wod. De have ei sa ande standing in the west Wat all actually Happen. With Rasha and with Relationsi tuien West. Arsels and rasha aafte the end of the wo Teise sha t stan, et. Campswi? Re? Margi? Sam, pp? I. Think S CS. CB tingis, no aga Rushur an te Rushin People Be,  kas Putin and te think it importen, te, Crain Wins. Pina. Beyword Beyword. Be happy to de it Ano ther Govere. In away, he ed Soverent. Heate pe hy. Contr ic Clisse rusha. Warriorist Gyny is Ste m rotion Boto. Iveni ten Rusha Wu Carry on Being rada. IF Any Crenn Darray es haud Bay rusurese resolti te fen,  Sim pl, Harrige fiter, fen. Fer a sam t? Autoly. Hes War es astus. Rei Laste tha Economy fifty, milline peop? Ben Fae from te, Him the human casse, aiman foot. Brusebi conomi case Europe. Imago what want to do te find wa having sau mistes and I  think he thost three ways of thinking te end the wor con of  comaating wit, ech ohe. No ahi very much as urpens we to fa in. Ei Caryon se uting, Cra wecking, Caryon having Santions kas  rusha Brahi lo of the Bake desisions Being takenim  Washington Moska of then, urpean Capt. Tema. You rite an Aerookitled Whatas China think so Ceswicin,  conside you an expert on this Whedes China think about he  war in o Crain. I think neet? Ande stand eest. No ma see Tean ham es of Wel de with secing Phas wach is ise. Living In. Sam how i hai, et Saare. Endot. CaBo wich was create by others with Bros wich Shape to the  to Interest. Was Baiit, lo from Being, Carage Join au automale offen in,  kes er spe apar. Of the Siging s vision of rea. Regvennation of Chinese nation. Eesti haven. D te ro. A Si e mahlas presidenti hines need in sa. Vel ifren times of relatinships. Withe resto the wold and to shape things around is intress,  kas thats? In no mus. Andrid if no thousand yees in Joinsise. Ses pushing Bacon West en Leo isa positive pean hin. Pas Camestry tegin pen. Bladime püüdsin a the Same Time. Jhines Tradistiony Ben queit, Petact if of Dare sur ou,  Integrety They. Kad of Cateenig. West an Sanctions in awary wich w loo. Wich wo. Men hinne omapoest. Lucking for cone. KauLandsi beteen abroo filesophicus. Was manimising te cast t the Chonista? T aia tee fan. Kwed lines on Santiago. Wusha pa w his Simpes His Simpethes lin. Wallo rapping. The s ID. Pot ford on oequation, so housi we Instulate Westen Economis. Fron rashion eras evan mor, importetly Chinese inflana,  quite clear. Icelat ambud Hokan we protector sols. Sa I think the Ceating to andestan. Ise naturalisionship the we habe with te plas iss. Värvery impuudset. Aega am way ependec wer e need can mo. Position of weknes whey ecan be Black. Mad Sa tha mans oume le the fasee me mo ur,  nian, Stan. Faundation for Frosuses Basbu a San eni think,  kel. Howi Bild relation, ships with the play If ty. Aastas have a ana. Au Laste ad vantage te Benefits of Clubalisation and Clybu connecti. Es Wast toote security thi s. Enne Princepuisamer ees I think Ingrid ase. Pandon oma. Kutil importent security. Let's Luke German ami, Thave BeComing, Ivi more dependent on  on Chinas Economy ter, exporting, Heveli anoter,  also Bilding, ther FIveG Networks on Huawei Technology,  Rushan Discin fo systematicy spreding in social meedia  distabilising ar Society, no Have we got The meinset and al  so the toles to defese. Ar depeen sena. Sa Ihat Bag deba we en having ressan es. Ivan Pefa war. Deba. In erent counts, them we had, wd, many peopo. Realise the China wis Willing to eppenise. Seplive Maskes and. Acin nationalism with hi Led peopo t think Tysepa Bild ing  en on contr. Ha is situation, Lithaa. Change the name of Twa in representation Office and. Wa we et ise? Ve How stuctur i elation shes and te Bass we ah le of having  Depede Conte siis. Tema Europ strong, inof, Sa Wekan, take,  tof action, if any on takes action gan sta. In away. Mad Liesae. Pe canes. Af on time, tema plitso prasur,  tes austries massage, fe them sellel. Tho see Qot in ou reso thatsen, Hanting me for fe Weeks noo  its from Chinis, professor Jan Ho you met Back ing to  thousand and to and the Quote, kes es folose Wen China,  kes t ware with USA, we hope Europil at least stay Netrallit. Stroomi. Nt is that question? See eliit. This use compersation we had. Tent ea. A time I was really shot question heas. The wo eti merka. Sain aga everything you, hea on. Form Pole Bush ees wa, et. Just väitsid see la ineri Wel Trad arganisatiiri. Bilding Baryvery Deep economy, Relation shits,  wi one another and this seame like was for men the rage was Je. Kis to o te Marc Hese enne kis toote Marce Bat näo,  et täis Lotse people, Byth in Ciner in America. Terefid of. He the ne tooki ba. Ta. Lõi. Betwin char America In. Formes the Back dop t? Weet meie I think aafta the e Fort fabury Pep Mach mo live t  te Dangur of pletsu Competision, Ashle taking on. Arbu. Wall like. Dimitrivenifi oos. We have to learn from from from War in in re nagu. I is very deficat te have thes relations of of Dependens on  Contrys with hu, mida Share back Filosofin,  Bacic, Interasts, Bikes, Iven. West inkan, happene wic us tav How along sid ou ass. From way on. In you reno, san ta has bin the reality with Russre for long tim. Estonian. Ei noo? Ei living. Pes you have these ins taks. Gang on ethere taks ether is Manipulation of trade ethere is  enegy an o ther cines of things. Chineesi. Position Wet bout, using, usu ifent, too ise. Said competition agast, ech, other. Es the China Strategyle. Mind vist veel leeve the Wekan, tame Communist China by  merely Doing more Business wi them. Coprating Jin Way Can Caprit et. Ses ah? Realistlik on question is ha yo. Ashe implement and hai Point I think hast be may our tunger  I think that's on ohh aris we have lo of work US for. A is mach mora stand-up to hoia struc tur i relational p in  aga wi h laus defa in soveren. Hor you see Europ Strategi Autonomy wi ch is a Popler  consept in Paris. I? T? Fotole that? Frey strategi autonomy. Beru si stand -up to mercee. American Protectioniseif Donald Trump Co pat to the why Haus  and ant do De with rushare rever, heads for ekin on push  Back and. Ithink Ise. An of the elas of Living through. Donald Trump, seeig. Sejing Peng Changeing te naturaalations with reste Wald an seal. Hamning in Rusha hi is Sal ingwich. The Foundation Phenational soveren ja New Cont Estonia ahi. Sof. Teise Wel spa of tht li and Pa. Heu with Provid toida. For Estonian security na no aba tonemy Ba ige. B of re hina auto ma ron desitions after de as e no ei buty. Mark Lene thank, so mach for this Conversation fe aspekts. Wer n Tuch. Endise intervjuu From Bu enet reamed, everyone. Found thos Point, interesting, Reed, et head vaatajad,  suur aitäh, et veetsite aasta viimase esimese stuudio Eesti  televisiooniga on olnud pöörane aasta. Loodame kõik, et järgmine aasta tuleb rahulik. Ilusat pühade aega ja kohtumiseni aastal 2023.
